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How To: Using Fast Setting Grout for Fence Posts

Whether you are a first-time fence installer or a seasoned professional, we are sure you will find some information in this article that you need to know about setting fence posts with fast setting grout. This “How To” guide will take you through the process, step-by-step, to ensure the best application of fast setting grout for fence posts.

What is important for you to know about using fast setting grout:

  • Perfect temperature is 70 degrees
  • Add cold water if warmer than 70 degrees and hot water if colder
  • Never use quick-rock in temperatures below 30 degrees
  • Pour grout within 5 minutes of initial mix
  • If using more than 5 pounds of grout, mix vigorously with a mechanical means such as a powered blender
  • Always crown or cap hole to assure water run-off. If salt exposure is possible, grouted area should be sealed with concrete sealer. Fast setting grout is very susceptible to salt and will cause the material to break down.
"Recommended dimensions for use as "Neat Mix" anchoring grout" Chart that illustrates the proper hole diameter, hole depth and amount of quik-rok needed based on the material diameter

    Below is the Quik-Rock—a popular fast setting grout—mixing guide. If your posts are larger than 3 inches, make sure the hole is at least 1 ½ to 2 inches larger than the post.

    If you’re using fast setting grout as an additive to concrete, make sure to use the 1:2:3 mix: Grout : Portland : Gravel. Use as little water as possible, but still enough to establish flow. Too much water will break down the grout. Your holes should be 3x the diameter of your posts. A 3-inch post would require a 9-inch diameter.

    To increase your success while using fast setting grout, perform these additional steps:

    • Add key ways into the post by cutting slits into the post. This will significantly increase the gripping strength of the grout to the post. Posts breaking free from the grout is the biggest challenge with fast setting grout.
    • Widen your gap between the post and the edge of the hole to allow materials to flow all around it.

      Drilling does not have to continue until you reach the center of the Earth. It is ok if you don’t go all the way to the bottom of the slab. According to ASTM F 567, which is the industry standard for setting fence posts in solid rock or concrete:

      Reads "5.5 When solid rock or concrete is encountered, without an overburden of soil, set posts in the solid rock or concrete. The depth of the hole shall be three time the largest cross section of the posts. The diameter of the hole shall be 1/2 in. (13 mm) greater than the largest cross section of the post"

      For a 2 ½ inch diameter post, you only need to drill to a depth of 7 ½ inches.

       

      2.5” post diameter x 3 = 7.5” depth

       

      Leave at least a ½ inch void all around the post so that the grout may flow freely to fill it. For a 2 ½ inch post, use a 3 ½ inch rock drill bit or core drill. TIP: When mixing grout, cut the top of the pop bottle—or whatever container you are mixing in—at a 45-degree angle. This will allow you to tip the container and still pour the grout in the gap.

      A mixing receptacle cut at a 45 degree angle to demonstrate the ease of pouring into the gap around the post

      This is actually 1 ½ inches deeper than what is required by the Federal Specification RRF-191 which states a depth of 6 inches. Bear in mind that we are tying into the slab. Doing so, the post will only give if the slab fails. No further footing is required.

      In accordance with ASTM 567 and typical practice, it is not necessary to keep drilling. Only a few more inches and we will hit the bottom.

      Rock drilling and core drilling are not indefinite

      It should be measured by depth along with diameter. When installing a project that includes drilling, you must consider the depth of the material that you will be coring or drilling.

      The below illustration demonstrates standard thickness of paving based on use. This is a good rule of thumb. However, this does not apply to asphalt. Most asphalt slabs are less than 6 inches, but it may vary considerably as additional lifts are placed over time. It is not unusual to find asphalt slabs over 1 foot thick.

      Demonstration of the thickness of concrete for sidewalks (4"), parking lot and private roadways (6"), public and industrial roads (8") and thickened edges at pavement edge (12"+)